Kick off meeting notes

 Date

Jul 30, 2024

 Participants

  • @Alex Kemp

  • @Kevin Phipps

  • @Antony Wilson

  • @Louise Davies

  • Paul Quinn

 Goals

To understand a bit more about what this project might entail

 Discussion points

  • A goal should be to help Diamond improve their metadata

  • Diamond 2 is going to need a workflow management system of some sort and they want an automated process

  • Provenance is needed to track raw to processed data, and should be captured somewhere (ICAT?)

  • ISIS currently processes raw data in DAaaS through MANTID

  • ISIS are currently rewriting their software for automated “reduction”, in K8s, presumably in Argo?

  • ISIS have 1 member of staff looking into it

  • CLF is using Octopus to process data through workflows

  • Argo VS Common Workflow Language

    • Brian notes DAFNI had some issues with Argo

  • Questions around who is running Argo and whether or not SCD will need to host anything

  • Diamond is also working on micro-services

  • Diamond has 2 members of staff working on micro-services and workflows

  • Diamond processed data needs to end up in ICAT

  • EPAC want to process their data manually using MANTID but it is doubtful they will

  • Galaxy uses Workflow Hub

    • used for user-defined workflows

  • So what are we working towards?:

    • a standard way of defining workflows so that they can be re-used between facilities

    • potentially storing any provenance data in ICAT

      • entities for which already exist in ICAT (added as part of the Octopus project)

  • Timelines: The project needs to be ideally defined by September

  • FIAR data should feature in this somewhere.

 Action items

Alex to organise a meeting to find out what workflow architecture/development work is taking place at the facilities and to see where we can help.